Comments on: Traditional Poetry vs. Modern Poetry /2017/04/22/traditional-poetry-vs-modern-poetry/ "Lock up your libraries if you like; but there is no gate, no lock, no bolt that you can set upon the freedom of my mind." - Virginia Woolf Tue, 29 Oct 2019 11:02:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Madame Writer /2017/04/22/traditional-poetry-vs-modern-poetry/comment-page-1/#comment-6916 Tue, 29 Oct 2019 11:02:18 +0000 http://madamewriterblog.com/?p=2025#comment-6916 In reply to Zubair.

Thank you for the comment! I love learning about poetry in other languages, and I’ll have to see if I can find some Urdu poetry now. But that is an absolutely beautiful poem! I haven’t read it before.

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By: Zubair /2017/04/22/traditional-poetry-vs-modern-poetry/comment-page-1/#comment-6914 Tue, 29 Oct 2019 07:19:01 +0000 http://madamewriterblog.com/?p=2025#comment-6914 Hi. I am not a native English speaker. Urdu is my first language and I use English as second language. I agree with your post and let me tell you I see the same trend with Urdu poetry as well.

Being a non native English I have limited understanding of English poetry yet I enjoy and connect with classical English poetry more than the modern.

One of my favourite is Leisure by WH Davies:

What is this life if, full of care,
We have no time to stand and stare.

No time to stand beneath the boughs
And stare as long as sheep or cows.

No time to see, when woods we pass,
Where squirrels hide their nuts in grass.

No time to see, in broad daylight,
Streams full of stars, like skies at night.

No time to turn at Beauty’s glance,
And watch her feet, how they can dance.

No time to wait till her mouth can
Enrich that smile her eyes began.

A poor life this is if, full of care,
We have no time to stand and stare.

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By: Madame Writer /2017/04/22/traditional-poetry-vs-modern-poetry/comment-page-1/#comment-3993 Wed, 13 Feb 2019 15:06:05 +0000 http://madamewriterblog.com/?p=2025#comment-3993 In reply to 陆河.

Your thoughts are very interesting to read. I love the idea of taking the rules in poetry (and art and literature) and breaking or twisting them. Creating something new. However, I find deconstruction doesn’t even bother to study the classics before they create something new. Thus, you cannot break what you don’t understand. And some modern poets understand this. Even though, in this essay, I do talk about the worst of modern poetry and the best of traditional poetry, there are exceptions to both. There are so beautiful modern poems, which both break the rules and sound lovely. The same goes for every type of deconstructionism. I don’t like modern art, but some modern art is beautiful. I don’t like experimental literature, but some books written in this style are amazing. I suppose there are good and bad things to every cultural revolution.

But I love reading your thoughts on the matter, because you are right. Poetry (and writing in general) is so much more accessible to all people than it was even 50 years ago!

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By: 陆河 /2017/04/22/traditional-poetry-vs-modern-poetry/comment-page-1/#comment-3991 Wed, 13 Feb 2019 09:27:32 +0000 http://madamewriterblog.com/?p=2025#comment-3991 Wow you know what? I read the second poem in an optional course! Our teacher used it to talk about the difference between literary words and everyday words.

I agree with you! Your post really makes me think. And I’d like to talk about something else.

Two characteristics about modern cuture, in my humble opinion, are about deconstruction and mass culture. And I think those two features have much to do with the changes in poetry.

First, Classical poetry, with a very long history, has fully developed, and poets who are seeking breakthrough would never make any headway but just repeat if they didn’t break the rules. Therefore, they get rid of rhythm, rhyme and whatnot that traditional poetry rely on, trying to use a free form to challenge the powerful traditional poetry.

Second, deconstruction is so popular in every fields of Literature and Art. Poetry is no exception. Many central elements which make up a poem have been questioned. And the definition of Poetry are discussed again. The meaning of the second poem, in my humble opinion, is to putting forward the questions what in the world poetry is and what poetry can be. To me, It is more like an experiment and exploration.

Mass culture and development of other forms of media nowadays might have much to do with the unpopularity of poetry.

In addition, I think mass culture prefer something more accessible. So poems are becoming more and more clear. Besides, thanks to the free form of modern poetry, a lot of different people could join in writing, thus in turn contributing to modern poetry. Diversity is one of the most remarkable features of modern poetry, I suppose.

The problem of modern poetry, however, is very obvious. Without rules that makes what traditional poetry is, what should we define the poetry nowaday? Do modern poems have remarkable characteristics? Are they just some sentences divided into different lines? What makes a poem poetic in modern poetry?…… So many problems to be discussed. In that case, It seems, in a sense, writing modern poems is more difficult and challenging because we don’t know what modern Poetry really is, and whether or not the words we write can be considered a poem……

I know little about poetry. Personally, I like those beautiful and accessible which make people relate to the words and think!

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By: Happy Easter and National Poetry Month! – Madame Writer /2017/04/22/traditional-poetry-vs-modern-poetry/comment-page-1/#comment-698 Sun, 01 Apr 2018 13:05:28 +0000 http://madamewriterblog.com/?p=2025#comment-698 […] to writing poetry. I’m not a huge fan of modern poetry, as you might have guessed from my Traditional Poetry vs. Modern Poetry article. However, I’m going for […]

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By: lindaluna583 /2017/04/22/traditional-poetry-vs-modern-poetry/comment-page-1/#comment-55 Mon, 12 Jun 2017 14:54:27 +0000 http://madamewriterblog.com/?p=2025#comment-55 In reply to madamewriterblog.

Thank you so much!

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By: madamewriterblog /2017/04/22/traditional-poetry-vs-modern-poetry/comment-page-1/#comment-54 Mon, 12 Jun 2017 14:39:11 +0000 http://madamewriterblog.com/?p=2025#comment-54 In reply to lindaluna583.

Frost is one of my favorite poets as well. And I agree with you that every poet should at least try modern poetry. I myself wrote some of it in college–hating it all the way, unfortunately. I think colleges should give study to both, and let kids decide. I checked out some of your poetry on your blog “Dark Side of the Moon.” It’s actually really good. I particularly liked “Sensing the Sea.” It really does hearken back to Frost’s style. Thanks for the comment!

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By: lindaluna583 /2017/04/22/traditional-poetry-vs-modern-poetry/comment-page-1/#comment-53 Mon, 12 Jun 2017 02:35:36 +0000 http://madamewriterblog.com/?p=2025#comment-53 I appreciate your article and your perspective on poetry. I myself am a traditionalist, preferring to write poems with rhythm and rhyme over free verse, although I do write my fair share of both. In fact, I like to dabble in every form that I come across. It’s my mental exercise. Sometimes the subject calls for less structure, allowing the ideas to flow more freely. But most of the time the structure is what makes the poem, well, poetic. Like you said of Williams’ poem, anyone could have written it. Writing a traditional poem, however, takes a lot of work. When I write, I like to use paper and pencil for my first drafts, and my tools of the trade are always at my fingertips: a large dictionary, Roget’s Thesaurus, and a rhyming dictionary. What’s my favorite poem? I suppose I have two, both written by Robert Frost: “The Road Not Taken” and “Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening.” They are both simple, in a sense, and yet thoughtful. They have both been quoted, at least in part, by many people over the years. I myself quote them frequently, which is probably why they were the first to come to mind. I believe a poet has been successful when he can implement rhythm that doesn’t feel sing-songy and create rhyme that doesn’t feel forced. By that standard, I personally have not always been successful, but it is always my aim.

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